And there’s another group of people who, not being obsessed with jeweled earrings, has given up partner and children, male and female bondservants, fields and lands, and gold and currency, and goes forth from the lay life to homelessness. Now, brahmin, that individual who doesn’t mortify either themselves or others—in which of these two groups of people do you usually find such an individual?” “I usually find such an individual in the group that has gone forth from the lay life to homelessness.”