Pupils who had been dismissed did not ask for forgiveness. They told the Buddha. “You should ask for forgiveness.” They still did not ask for forgiveness. They told the Buddha. “One who has been dismissed should ask for forgiveness. If he doesn’t, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.” Teachers who were asked for forgiveness did not forgive. They told the Buddha. “You should forgive.” They still did not forgive. The pupils left, disrobed, and joined the monastics of other religions. They told the Buddha. “When asked for forgiveness, you should forgive. If you don’t, you commit an offense of wrong conduct.” Teachers dismissed pupils who were conducting themselves properly and did not dismiss those who were not. They told the Buddha. “You shouldn’t dismiss someone who is conducting himself properly. If you do, you commit an offense of wrong conduct. And you should dismiss someone who isn’t conducting himself properly. If you don’t, you commit an offense of wrong conduct. If a pupil has five qualities, he should be dismissed: he doesn’t have much affection for his teacher; he doesn’t have much confidence in his teacher; he doesn’t have much conscience in regard to his teacher; he doesn’t have much respect for his teacher; he hasn’t developed his mind much under his teacher.