“I rejoice in the words of the great seer! You have expounded non-attachment well, Gotama. There are those here who have given up all that is seen, heard, and thought, <j>and precepts and vows, who have given up all the countless different things. Fully understanding craving, <j>they are free of defilements, those people, I agree, have crossed the flood.”
Anthology of Discourses 5.9 The Questions of Hemaka
“Those who have previously answered me,” said Venerable Hemaka, “before Gotama’s teaching, said ‘thus it was’ or ‘so it shall be’. All that was just the testament of hearsay; all that just fostered speculation: I found no delight in that.
But you, sage, explain to me the teaching that destroys craving. Having understood it, one who lives mindfully may cross over clinging in the world.”
“The removal of desire and lust, Hemaka, for pleasant things seen, heard, thought, or cognized here is extinguishment, the state that does not pass.
Those who have fully understood this, mindful, are quenched in this very life. Always at peace, they’ve crossed over clinging to the world.”
Anthology of Discourses 5.10 The Questions of Todeyya