At that time Venerable Seyyasaka was ignorant and incompetent, often committing offenses, and lacking in boundaries. And he was constantly and improperly socializing with householders. In addition, the monks regularly gave him probation, sent him back to the beginning, gave him trial periods, and rehabilitated him. The monks of few desires complained and criticized him, “How can Venerable Seyyasaka go on like this?” They told the Buddha.